1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:02,780 and so she ordered some green clay from 2 00:00:12,530 --> 00:00:08,730 France and I began treating brouilly 3 00:00:16,220 --> 00:00:12,540 ulcer with it and this is very low-tech 4 00:00:21,140 --> 00:00:16,230 cure but very effective all you need is 5 00:00:27,230 --> 00:00:21,150 the a spatula squeeze bottle some 6 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:27,240 bandages and the right kind of clay so 7 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:30,240 here's a picture of day 1 of a treatment 8 00:00:38,510 --> 00:00:35,579 of one of the children she actually had 9 00:00:42,229 --> 00:00:38,520 over a hundred cures the only other cure 10 00:00:46,250 --> 00:00:42,239 being amputation she and she documented 11 00:00:52,279 --> 00:00:46,260 with these photos this is day two of the 12 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:52,289 clay treatment and a 103 of the clay 13 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:55,710 treatment so over 100 cures the World 14 00:01:00,529 --> 00:00:57,510 Health Organization which she took these 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:00,539 photos to said well didn't get excited 16 00:01:04,820 --> 00:01:02,010 about it said we need to know the 17 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:04,830 mechanism behind this before we can get 18 00:01:16,380 --> 00:01:09,360 excited here's how she used the split 19 00:01:22,270 --> 00:01:19,300 this is thought to be spread by a water 20 00:01:24,810 --> 00:01:22,280 bug that bites mainly women and children 21 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:24,820 who go out and forage in the swamps and 22 00:01:30,460 --> 00:01:28,490 people would get and it can incubate for 23 00:01:33,070 --> 00:01:30,470 like five years before it finally comes 24 00:01:35,410 --> 00:01:33,080 out as a pimple which then the flesh 25 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:35,420 starts falling off of it's not painful 26 00:01:41,050 --> 00:01:37,970 but putting when once you put the clay 27 00:01:45,510 --> 00:01:41,060 on it then it didn't become painful hmm 28 00:01:47,710 --> 00:01:45,520 so her son came to this country and 29 00:01:50,410 --> 00:01:47,720 tried to get some interest among clay 30 00:01:52,180 --> 00:01:50,420 scientists I was one but the main one 31 00:01:54,249 --> 00:01:52,190 was Linda Williams at Arizona State 32 00:01:55,540 --> 00:01:54,259 University who really took it up and 33 00:01:58,630 --> 00:01:55,550 started experimenting with different 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:01:58,640 clays to try to figure out how they had 35 00:02:05,469 --> 00:02:03,890 this antibacterial potential and one of 36 00:02:09,130 --> 00:02:05,479 the way she did this is a the least 37 00:02:13,090 --> 00:02:09,140 sophisticated test but you can see the 38 00:02:14,650 --> 00:02:13,100 initial petri dish there and then that 39 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:14,660 was incubated and then she added 40 00:02:20,380 --> 00:02:18,260 different kinds of clay to it and you 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:20,390 can see the clay sometimes helped growth 42 00:02:30,130 --> 00:02:23,410 but the egregore clay killed everything 43 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:30,140 and this was the clay from France so she 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:32,209 began testing a lot of different clays 45 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:35,170 and found that about 10 percent of them 46 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:41,930 showed antibacterial action here's the 47 00:02:48,370 --> 00:02:43,489 killing efficiency of some of the 48 00:02:54,310 --> 00:02:48,380 antibacterial clays notice mersa falls 49 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:54,320 on this list that egregore just after 28 50 00:03:00,940 --> 00:02:56,269 days it showed some activity against a 51 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:00,950 certain bacteria the best clay that we 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:03,730 found is that otm clay which is from 53 00:03:19,050 --> 00:03:16,110 the Agra Argyl each clay was the was was 54 00:03:21,180 --> 00:03:19,060 another French green clay and she wrote 55 00:03:23,310 --> 00:03:21,190 for more sample of that and tested it 56 00:03:24,750 --> 00:03:23,320 and it didn't work anymore so it 57 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:24,760 probably came from a different part of 58 00:03:33,150 --> 00:03:29,260 the deposit or maybe the antibacterial 59 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:33,160 clay was used up so became necessary to 60 00:03:42,150 --> 00:03:36,610 know how to identify these antibacterial 61 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:42,160 clays so here's some TEM and e-coli 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:45,130 after critical point drying the one of 63 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:47,890 the one is after an hour treatment with 64 00:03:53,970 --> 00:03:50,530 the Oregon clay you can see the cell 65 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:53,980 wall is intact but after 24 hours the 66 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:55,930 cell wall is still intact but there are 67 00:04:01,470 --> 00:03:59,040 all these voids inside the bacteria 68 00:04:07,650 --> 00:04:01,480 killing the bacteria or rendering it 69 00:04:11,310 --> 00:04:07,660 ineffective it was up to 70 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Linda's student Keith Morrison to really 71 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:13,450 figure out what was going on using this 72 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:15,489 very high-tech instrument that's only 73 00:04:20,130 --> 00:04:16,930 found in a few departments across the 74 00:04:24,450 --> 00:04:20,140 country called the nano Sims and on the 75 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:24,460 left there is ecoli napped for the 76 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:26,410 carbon so you can see the bacteria 77 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:29,680 pretty clearly there the one next to it 78 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:33,910 and yellow is aluminum and then red is 79 00:04:37,740 --> 00:04:35,770 iron and you can see the aluminum sort 80 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:37,750 of concentrates around the edge of the 81 00:04:44,700 --> 00:04:40,770 bacteria and the iron in the interior 82 00:04:50,970 --> 00:04:44,710 and then this is what really opened 83 00:04:53,850 --> 00:04:50,980 things up see the up upper curve is for 84 00:04:58,010 --> 00:04:53,860 carbon and you can see where the cell is 85 00:05:00,090 --> 00:04:58,020 and the extracellular material this is a 86 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:00,100 transect going across one of the 87 00:05:07,020 --> 00:05:03,640 bacteria you can see the arrow and the 88 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:07,030 middle picture so there's the carbon and 89 00:05:11,610 --> 00:05:09,310 the aluminum is in yellow and you can 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:11,620 see that that's concentrated in the cell 91 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:15,610 wall and the iron is concentrated in the 92 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:19,120 cytoplasm in the center of the cell 93 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:22,210 and although the concentration of 94 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:24,190 aluminum and iron was not sufficient to 95 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,280 alone to kill the bacteria working 96 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:29,680 together in this synergistic way the 97 00:05:37,740 --> 00:05:33,610 aluminum caused miss folding of the of 98 00:05:40,770 --> 00:05:37,750 the proteins in the cell wall and the 99 00:05:42,930 --> 00:05:40,780 iron entered into the cell and through 100 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:42,940 various complex reactions including the 101 00:05:48,450 --> 00:05:45,610 Haberer Weiss reaction the Fenton 102 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:48,460 reaction and so on it transformed from 103 00:05:58,350 --> 00:05:53,490 Fe 2 plus and 2 Fe 3 plus releasing 104 00:06:02,520 --> 00:05:58,360 peroxide and causing Oh H radicals to 105 00:06:04,710 --> 00:06:02,530 form which destroyed the cell so the 106 00:06:06,990 --> 00:06:04,720 main thing is to mobilize aluminum and 107 00:06:09,689 --> 00:06:07,000 iron and here's a solubility curve for 108 00:06:12,420 --> 00:06:09,699 aluminum and that you can see it's a 109 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:12,430 function of pH and so you have to get to 110 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:16,449 a low pH or high pH to mobilize aluminum 111 00:06:21,779 --> 00:06:19,630 and iron has much the same curve so 112 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:21,789 working this out the requirements for an 113 00:06:26,850 --> 00:06:24,310 anti bacterial clay our source for iron 114 00:06:30,930 --> 00:06:26,860 this is sometimes the mineral pyrite or 115 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:30,940 fool's gold source for aluminum which is 116 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:33,310 clay or feldspar and you have to knead 117 00:06:37,770 --> 00:06:35,620 it need a pH below 4.2 to really 118 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:37,780 mobilize iron in aluminum so that 119 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:40,990 they're soluble and can enter and enter 120 00:06:47,339 --> 00:06:44,260 into the bacteria and he H how much 121 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:47,349 oxygen is in the system of 450 to 800 122 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:50,080 millivolts this stabilizes fe 2 plus 123 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:52,900 which is the soluble form of iron which 124 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:56,050 enters into the cell and transforms into 125 00:07:01,290 --> 00:06:59,199 fe 3 plus gets oxidized and a swelling 126 00:07:05,339 --> 00:07:01,300 clay which buffers the chemistry of the 127 00:07:07,469 --> 00:07:05,349 system here's a deposit where the clay 128 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:07,479 is it's across the hall 129 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:09,490 we hope you'll all take a sample of it 130 00:07:15,060 --> 00:07:12,490 and try it out and let me know what 131 00:07:18,089 --> 00:07:15,070 happened we don't have FDA approval or 132 00:07:21,210 --> 00:07:18,099 anything this is to experiment on 133 00:07:22,890 --> 00:07:21,220 yourself and let me know you know lots 134 00:07:26,250 --> 00:07:22,900 of people friends of mine have tried it 135 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:26,260 with very good results but this shows 136 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:28,750 the deposit up at the top the brownish 137 00:07:32,779 --> 00:07:29,849 stuff is 138 00:07:35,239 --> 00:07:32,789 a Pleistocene sediment from glaciers and 139 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:35,249 then the reddish stuff below that is 140 00:07:41,809 --> 00:07:37,919 completely oxidized clay where there's 141 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:41,819 it does it's in not antibacterial all of 142 00:07:45,169 --> 00:07:43,529 the onion 2 plus has been converted into 143 00:07:47,689 --> 00:07:45,179 iron three-plus forming the mineral 144 00:07:50,059 --> 00:07:47,699 growth site and then there's a whitish 145 00:07:53,059 --> 00:07:50,069 band right by the where that guy's head 146 00:07:54,949 --> 00:07:53,069 is that doesn't have pyrite in it but 147 00:07:57,829 --> 00:07:54,959 it's still antibacterial it creates a 148 00:08:01,519 --> 00:07:57,839 low pH and must have iron on the 149 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:01,529 exchange sites and iron two-plus on the 150 00:08:06,049 --> 00:08:03,330 exchange sites but the really powerful 151 00:08:08,509 --> 00:08:06,059 stuff is the blue stuff below that but 152 00:08:09,859 --> 00:08:08,519 if you go too deep into the blue stuff 153 00:08:12,019 --> 00:08:09,869 it doesn't work anymore it's not 154 00:08:13,989 --> 00:08:12,029 antibacterial this is because it hasn't 155 00:08:17,059 --> 00:08:13,999 oxidized enough the playwright hasn't 156 00:08:19,489 --> 00:08:17,069 oxidized to form the acid which thence 157 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:19,499 dissolves and releases Fe 2 plus from 158 00:08:25,009 --> 00:08:22,889 the playwright so in conclusion the 159 00:08:29,259 --> 00:08:25,019 Oregon clay is affected killing a broad 160 00:08:31,820 --> 00:08:29,269 spectrum of pathogenic bacteria x' 161 00:08:33,379 --> 00:08:31,830 experiment with you organ clay with at 162 00:08:38,659 --> 00:08:33,389 your own wrist and report your results 163 00:08:40,459 --> 00:08:38,669 and for more information our website 164 00:08:47,660 --> 00:08:40,469 should be up by now and you could take a 165 00:08:50,250 --> 00:08:47,670 look thanks thank you very much are 166 00:08:52,990 --> 00:08:50,260 there any questions 167 00:08:57,139 --> 00:08:53,000 [Music] 168 00:08:59,569 --> 00:08:57,149 dennis very interesting um so metals are 169 00:09:03,079 --> 00:08:59,579 known to have antibiotic and antiviral 170 00:09:06,410 --> 00:09:03,089 properties most notably colloidal silver 171 00:09:10,129 --> 00:09:06,420 and others is their mechanism it all 172 00:09:11,689 --> 00:09:10,139 related to this you have to get above a 173 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:11,699 certain level for them to be effective 174 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:14,910 and this is well below any killing power 175 00:09:19,150 --> 00:09:16,889 for aluminum and iron in the solution 176 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:19,160 mm-hmm 177 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:21,600 but it's a synergistic effect of the two 178 00:09:25,490 --> 00:09:23,610 of their kills a bacteria so that is 179 00:09:27,499 --> 00:09:25,500 then something different from clothes 180 00:09:29,689 --> 00:09:27,509 differently and I think bacteria would 181 00:09:33,439 --> 00:09:29,699 have a hard time evolving a resistance 182 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:33,449 to this type of approach thank you if 183 00:09:37,689 --> 00:09:35,880 the criteria for being taken seriously 184 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:37,699 is that you figure out the mechanism 185 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:40,500 then it would seem that you've figured 186 00:09:44,990 --> 00:09:41,760 out the mechanism 187 00:09:48,260 --> 00:09:45,000 and that this mechanism could be used or 188 00:09:50,050 --> 00:09:48,270 created in an artificial way yes in 189 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:50,060 other words an artificial clay in effect 190 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:52,740 and that would be a next step to go to 191 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:54,690 has there been a discussion of that uh 192 00:10:01,220 --> 00:09:56,910 we have on a patent on the artificial 193 00:10:02,570 --> 00:10:01,230 idea you can't patent natural stuff the 194 00:10:04,820 --> 00:10:02,580 natural stuff is cheap and readily 195 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:04,830 available and so I'd like to see that 196 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:06,510 used in clinical studies but we've been 197 00:10:10,370 --> 00:10:09,000 on a able interest anybody in clinical 198 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:10,380 studies that contacted the World Health 199 00:10:14,450 --> 00:10:12,510 Organization and they referred us to 200 00:10:16,430 --> 00:10:14,460 somebody else who refers to somebody 201 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:16,440 else there just wasn't much interest 202 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:20,910 they contacted the mersa experimental 203 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:22,710 group in Chicago and also they weren't 204 00:10:29,870 --> 00:10:28,260 interested in pursuing so I'm a 205 00:10:31,790 --> 00:10:29,880 clinician I and I have two questions the 206 00:10:34,460 --> 00:10:31,800 first is can we purchase the clay off of 207 00:10:37,010 --> 00:10:34,470 this website I'm sending out free 208 00:10:39,380 --> 00:10:37,020 samples free samples no you can't 209 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:39,390 purchase in bulk or something uh yeah 210 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:41,370 there's a place in Oregon where you can 211 00:10:46,370 --> 00:10:44,070 buy it in a big book that's where I got 212 00:10:47,330 --> 00:10:46,380 it from and I can give you that address 213 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:47,340 okay great 214 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:49,920 and my second question is so I don't 215 00:10:54,860 --> 00:10:51,450 know if you're familiar I only know it 216 00:10:57,710 --> 00:10:54,870 by its the name used in the stores Tara 217 00:10:59,420 --> 00:10:57,720 Minh yeah that is the clay that NASA 218 00:11:01,070 --> 00:10:59,430 showed that if you take it as a 219 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:01,080 supplement internally it prevents 220 00:11:05,570 --> 00:11:02,970 osteoporosis and astronauts under 221 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:05,580 conditions of weightlessness was tara 222 00:11:09,020 --> 00:11:06,930 man looked at as one of the potential 223 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:09,030 clays that could be antibacterial I 224 00:11:19,190 --> 00:11:15,510 don't know okay I'm also a physician and 225 00:11:23,170 --> 00:11:19,200 I'm wondering if you are familiar with 226 00:11:26,270 --> 00:11:23,180 the therapy called phage therapy R or 227 00:11:28,670 --> 00:11:26,280 bacteria phage therapy because bacteria 228 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:28,680 phages which are viruses are found in 229 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:32,310 all soils and research has been done 230 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:36,000 since the 1920s on these bacteria phages 231 00:11:42,740 --> 00:11:39,450 and it was developed in the early years 232 00:11:45,140 --> 00:11:42,750 prior to antibiotics being developed and 233 00:11:46,210 --> 00:11:45,150 it was used as a an anti bacterial 234 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:46,220 therapy 235 00:11:49,630 --> 00:11:48,410 and is still being used in Russia as a 236 00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:49,640 so I'm wondering if you're familiar with 237 00:11:53,830 --> 00:11:51,470 that and if there might have been an 238 00:11:56,710 --> 00:11:53,840 effect of the bacteriophages in that 239 00:12:00,820 --> 00:11:56,720 clay soil that's causing an effect as 240 00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:00,830 well as perhaps the metal effects that 241 00:12:04,390 --> 00:12:02,030 you described 242 00:12:05,380 --> 00:12:04,400 yeah I've seen pictures of pages and 243 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:05,390 they're fantastic 244 00:12:14,050 --> 00:12:09,770 and there are bacteria in this in this 245 00:12:15,790 --> 00:12:14,060 soil they are metal iron loving bacteria 246 00:12:19,150 --> 00:12:15,800 and they have a very different cell wall 247 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:19,160 and metabolism from pathogenic bacteria 248 00:12:23,950 --> 00:12:22,160 but I don't know if there are phages the 249 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:23,960 virus system because it's the viruses 250 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:27,680 that attack the bacteria and that's what 251 00:12:30,910 --> 00:12:29,090 I'm wondering if you looked into the 252 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:30,920 viruses that were in the soil no we 253 00:12:34,330 --> 00:12:32,330 killed that kill we haven't done 254 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:34,340 anything with viruses i although I did 255 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:36,410 try putting this stuff on a couple of 256 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:39,890 warts I had on my hand and after a few 257 00:12:43,810 --> 00:12:41,270 weeks of treatment the warts went away 258 00:12:45,310 --> 00:12:43,820 with so that's all I know 259 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:45,320 okay thank you very much very